Interview with Kwan Yong-man of Christfuck!!

Interview conducted between May-July 2014 via email.   

Special thanks to Gumiho for working so hard on the translations!!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Christfuck/219784248039001

WULF: Your band name could be really shocking to a lot of people, especially Christians.  Is it because you guys are anti-Christian, or do you just want to be shocking with your name?  What's the reaction when people hear about your band or your music?  Also, there's not much information about your band, at least in English.  Please tell me about the history of your band.

Yong-man:  Hi, I'm the drummer of this band, Kwan Yong-man.  Our band was formed by bassist Shim Ji-hoon, guitarist Lee Jae-yeong, and vocalist Jeong Jin-yong, in 2011.  We had no drummer at first, so we just practiced with session drummers, and later on I joined.  There use to be four members in this band, but Ji-hoon quit in order to concentrate on playing black metal.  So we only have three members now.

Also, We are not an anti-Christian band.  However, although we still dislike Christians, the reason why we named our band "Christfuck" was because it was just the most stupid and aggressive name we could think of, so we chose it.

WULF:  What do you hope to ultimately accomplish with this band?  Maybe something like touring Asia or Europe?  

Yong-man:  Grindcore isn't a big deal in Korea.  For now, all of the members of Christfuck are busy with other things so we don't make much of an effort with this band. However, we do still want to make a new album and make connections with other grindcore bands eventually.  We also want to have fun when we perform live, but that's about it.

WULF:  What do you think about the punk/metal scene in Korea?  Is it getting popular along with other Korean popular music due to the Korean Wave (hallyu)?  Where does your band fit within the Korean underground music scene? 

Yong-man:  It's a totally different world with Korean punk/metal bands and KPop/hip-hop groups.  It's not our business at all if K-Pop is popular or not.  There are only a few people (bands, fans) in the Korean punk/metal scene and it's pretty small, but it's run well though.  Of course, it's still not that fun. Anyway, Hallyu (Korean Wave) has nothing to do with us and we don't really have any opinion on it. We're a part of the non-existent Korean grindcore scene.  There are just five or six other bands that know each other.   Grindcore bands usually play when punk or metal bands play.  Punk and metal just isn't popular here and barely any new people ever join in.  But there are a few bands that still continue to play.  I guess it would be similar to punk/metal scenes in other countries as well.   There are a few fans of Christfuck here, but we don't play that often.

WULF:  How can people listen to your music?  Do you have CDs or vinyl, or is it only available on the internet?

Yong-man:  We used to sell our CDs at shows but now they're all sold out.   It could be good if we put our songs or music on the internet but we are too lazy to do that.  We are a really lazy band.   You would know that by our answers to your interview, because it was so delayed.   We're not only lazy, but we also don't play very hard in our band.  

WULF:  Usually, most grindcore bands have political or societal critiques or messages in their music.  What does your band sing about?   Does your band have any specific philosophy or belief that you adhere to?

Yong-man:  Each member has different thoughts and philosophies about music, but we rarely talk about that.   Shim Jihoon usually wrote critical or radical lyrics when he used to be our bassist, but nobody wants to write lyrics now.  Jeong Jinyeong, our vocalist, is too lazy to write.   I'm the drummer, so I just choose some of the titles for the songs.   I don't want to show my personal beliefs or philosophy in this band at all, so I just made the song titles really dumb or stupid without much thought involved.  We actually don't know the lyrics to the songs which we wrote after Shim Jihoon left.   Even Jeong Jinyeong just shouts when he sings.   We just sing about stupid or dumb stuff in this band.

WULF:  Are you inspired by anything outside of music, such as film or literature?

Yong-man:  We are mostly influenced by stupid action or zombie movies.   It seems that they have a religious message or are critical of society, but it actually just doesn't matter, like in Troma movies.

WULF:  What can people expect to see at your shows?  

Yong-man:  You can enjoy our stupid, fun, loud, and smelly band at our shows, although it's not very innovative or smart.   We don't use our brains when we play, just our muscles.   

WULF:  Thanks for the interview!!  Any final comments are yours...

Yong-man:  We are preparing a split album with Cave Have Rod, a Chinese band.   We are just a stupid and dumb band and we have no excuse (for why we are the way we are).   It's not because we are actually stupid in real life, it's just because we don't put much thought in the band.   Enjoy our dumb band in a dumb way.

ORIGINAL INTERVIEW (Hangeul):
WULF:  밴드 이름이 많은 사람들에게 충격적일 수 도 있는데, 특히 기독교인들에게요.  멤버들이 반기독교적이기 때문인가요, 아니면 단지 밴드이름을 통해 사람들에게 강한 인상을 주고 싶었던 건가요?
 밴드이름을 듣는 사람들 또는 밴드의 존재에 대한 사람들의 반응은 어떠한가요? 밴드에 대한 정보가 그리 많지 않은 데요(특히 영어로 된), 밴드에 대해 묻고 싶습니다. 밴드의 역사에 대한 간단한 소개 부탁 드려요.

KWAN YONGMAN: 안녕하세요. 밴드 Christfuck의 드러머 Yongman Kwon입니다.  밴드의 역사. 밴드의 정보 Christfuck은 2011년 베이시스트 심지훈을 주축으로 기타 이재영, 보컬 정진용과 함께 결성되었습니다. 처음에는 드러머가 없어서 세션 드러머들을 데려다가 연습하던 중, 그라인드코어 밴드 밤섬해적단의 드러머 권용만을 섭외하여 멤버로 영입하였습니다.  4인조로 활동하던 도중, 베이시스트 심지훈이 블랙메탈을 하고 싶다면서 탈퇴하였고 현재는3인조로 활동중입니다. 밴드 이름에 대해.  저희는 반기독교를 내세우는 밴드는 아닙니다. 물론 멤버들은 기독교를 싫어합니다. 그렇지만 밴드 이름을 Christfuck으로 정한 이유는 그냥 가장 멍청하고 공격적인 이름을 찾다가 아무거나 정한 겁니다.
WULF:  밴드가 궁극적으로 하고 싶은 것은 무엇인가요. 이를테면 아시아투어, 유럽 등으로의 공연 등이요.

KWAN YONGMAN:  밴드가 궁극적으로 하고 싶은 것. 한국에서는 grindcore밴드를 한다는 것이 거의 아무런 의미가 없습니다. 현재는 Christfuck 멤버들 모두 각자 다른 일로 바쁘기 때문에 밴드에 많은 노력을 쏟지 못하고 있습니다만, 천천히 새로운 앨범도 만들면서 해외의 grindcore 밴드들과 교류하고 싶습니다. 그게 전부입니다. 다른 그라인드코어 밴드들과 교류하고, 재밌게 공연하는 것.
WULF:   밴드가 생각하는 한국의 펑크락 이나 메탈 문화에 대해 말씀해 주세요.
펑크나 메탈락 또한 K팝이나 힙합 등의 한류 열풍처럼 인기를 얻고 있나요?  당신의 밴드는 한국의 언더그라운드뮤직 문화에서 어떠한 위치에 있다고 생각하나요? 예를 들어, 언더락 부분에서 많은 팬이 있다 또는 다른 밴드들에 생각하기에 당신의 밴드가 특이하다고 생각 한다 등등이요.
KWAN YONGMAN: 한국의 펑크/메탈 문화. K팝. 한국의 펑크/메탈과 K팝/힙합은 완전히 다른 세계입니다. K팝이 인기를 끌든 말든 우리와는 아무런 상관이 없습니다. 한국의 펑크/메탈 씬은 작고 사람도 별로 없지만 적당히 잘 돌아가고 있습니다. 물론 별로 재미는 없습니다만.
여튼 한류열풍이니 뭐니 하는 것은 우리와 전혀 상관없는 이야기이며, 이것에 대해 싫다거나 좋다거나 하는 생각조차 없습니다. 당신의 밴드는 한국의 언더그라운드뮤직 문화에서 어떠한 위치에 있다고 생각하나요? Christfuck이 있는 위치는 한국의 그라인드코어씬이라고 부를 수 있을 겁니다. 그렇다면 이 그라인드코어씬은 무엇일까요? 씬이 없습니다. 그저 5~6개의 그라인드코어 밴드들끼리 서로 알고 지내는 것이 다입니다. 그라인드코어 밴드들은 펑크나 메탈 공연에 끼어서 같이 공연하곤 합니다. 그렇다면 펑크나 메탈은 한국의 언더그라운드 뮤직 문화에서 어떠한 위치일까요? 펑크/메탈은 딱히 별로 인기도 없고 새로운 사람이 들어오지 않는 곳입니다. 하지만 소수의 사람들로 꾸준히 명맥을 유지하고 있는 곳이지요. 아마 어느 나라나 마찬가지일 것입니다. Christfuck은 그다지 팬이 많지도 않으며 활동을 활발하게 하지도 않기 때문에 별로 인기가 없습니다.
WULF: 사람들이 어디에서 여러분의 음악을 들을 수 있나요? CD나 기타 구매 가능한 다른 레코드판(vinyl)등이 있나요? 아니면 모든 음악을 인터넷을 통해서만 들을 수 있나요?
KWAN YONGMAN: 공연장에서 CD를 판매했었지만 지금은 절판되었습니다. 저희의 음원을 인터넷에 올리면 좋겠지만 멤버들이 게을러서 아무도 하고 있지 않습니다. 저희는 매우 게으른 사람들입니다.인터뷰에 대한 답변도 이렇게 늦게까지 끌다가 하는 것을 보십시오. 저희는 너무나 게으르고 밴드를 열심히 하지도 않습니다.
WULF:  그라인드코어 (Grindcore Bands) 밴드들은 거의 항상 정치, 종교 또는 현대 사회에 대해 비판적인 노래들을 가지고 있는데요, 여러분  밴드는 무엇에 관한 노래를 하나요? 특별히 옹호하거나 믿고 있는 철학이 있나요?
KWAN YONGMAN: 멤버들마다 서로 생각과 철학이 다릅니다. 하지만 각자 어떤 생각을 하고 있는지에 대해 대화하지 않습니다. 베이시스트 심지훈이 있던 시절에는 급진적이거나 비판적인 가사들을 주로 썼지만 이제는 아무도 딱히 가사를 쓰려고 하지도 않습니다. 보컬리스트 정진용이 가사를 쓰는 것을 귀찮아하고 있습니다. 몇몇 곡 제목은 드럼을 치는 제가 정합니다. 저는 이 밴드에서 저의 철학을 드러내고 싶은 생각이 전혀 없습니다. 그래서 최대한 바보같고 아무런 생각없는 제목을 짓습니다. 베이시스트 심지훈이 탈퇴한 후 만든 곡들에 대해서는, 멤버들 그 누구도 곡의 가사를 모릅니다. 심지어 보컬리스트 정진용 역시 그냥 소리만 지릅니다. 무엇에 대해 노래하는가? 라는 질문에 딱히 대답하라면,우리는 멍청함에 대해 노래합니다. 왜냐하면 적어도 멤버들 모두는 이 밴드 안에서는 굉장히 멍청하기 때문입니다.
WULF:  인터뷰하는 사람들은 항상 밴드에게 그들의 음악적 영향에 대해 묻곤 합니다. 그러나 저는 항상 밴드에게 음악 이외의 영향을 준 것들에 대해 흥미가 있어왔습니다. 당신들에게 영향을 준 어떤 책이나 영화가 있었나요? 당신이 추천하는 어떤 문학작품이 있나요?
KWAN YONGMAN:  영향을 준 책이나 영화. 멍청한 액션영화나 멍청한 좀비영화에서 영향을 받았습니다. 종교적이고 사회적인 메시지가 있는 것 같아 보이지만 사실은 그런 것이 별로 중요하지 않는 Troma의 영화 같은 것들 말입니다.
WULF:  당신의 Live공연을 한번도 본적이 없는 누군가에게 사람들은 Christfuck show에서 무엇을 예상할 수 있을 까요?
KWAN YONGMAN:  Christfuck show에서 기대할 수 있는 것? 참신하지도 똑똑하지도 않지만,바보같고 즐거우며 일단 귀는 시끄럽고 땀냄새 나는 멍청한 공연을 보실 수 있습니다. 저희는 연주할때도 뇌는 사용하지 않습니다. 근육만 사용합니다.
WULF:  여기까지가 마지막 질문이었습니다. 마직막으로 코멘트 부탁드려요 ^^
KWAN YONGMAN:  마지막 코멘트 첫째, 중국의 Cave have rod와 스플릿 앨범을 준비하고 있습니다. 둘째, 우리는 멍청한 밴드입니다. 변명의 여지가 없습니다. 멤버들이 멍청해서 멍청한 밴드가 된 것이 아닙니다. 밴드를 하면서 아무 생각이 없어서 멍청한 밴드가 되었습니다. 멍청한 음악을 멍청하게 즐겨주세요.

Interview with V.I.T.R.I.O.L. of Anaal Nathrakh!!

Phone interview conducted on April 22, 2011.
http://www.myspace.com/anaalnathrakh

Special thanks to Jackson "Mankvill" May for helping me out with questions!

WULF: OK, so I hate to start off with questions like this but I'm legitimately curious...how has the reception been so far for "Passion" on your end?

VITRIOL: It's been interesting, actually. There's only been a handful of reviews that I've seen so far because obviously the album's not out yet and the reviews are not creeping creeping out, but (some of the reviews that I've seen) didn't like it very much, which is a little less than ideal when you've made an album, but I've seen quite a number of more positive ones now. So broadly speaking, it's been quite good, there have been a few people that (didn't like it), but that's always going to happen. As for people close to us and everything, a lot of people have been very, very positive about it. A couple of people have said (it's) some the best songs that we've ever done. But yeah, so far, broadly speaking, we're happy. It's more important for us to be happy with the album ourselves because people will say what they like, but it's whether or not you can get on the album yourself that's got to be your guide. We're very happy with it, so that's the most important reaction as far as we're concerned.

WULF: Yeah, I would agree, but I wouldn't agree with the negative reviews. I found "Passion" to be just as fantastic as all the other Anaal Nathrakh albums. So, anyway, I don't know what they're talking about. I was definitely blown away.

VITRIOL: Well thank you, I'm glad you liked it. And it's not like all the reviews were (negative), just a couple, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

WULF: Well thank you, for what it's worth. But anyway, after getting the album repeated listens, judging by the song titles the subject matter on this new album is similar to other common themes on previous Anaal Nathrakh albums. However, were there any themes explored on "Passion" that were considered, lyrically, (as) new territory for the band? 2012 is looming ever-closer, after all...

VITRIOL: (laughs) Yeah, yeah. It is. We haven't got long left. (laughs) Yeah, there were a few new angles but a lot of it, (as) I've mentioned to one or two other people, had to do with a paper I read about the concept of horror, and understanding what horror was as opposed to terror or anything like that, and it has to do with the victim and the experience, becoming aware in the way that they've been changed or by the way they've been corrupted or otherwise altered by the experience. A lot of this stuff on the album is sort of vaguely related to (this) idea. So...

WULF: Interesting. That's pretty fascinating.

VITRIOL: It's more about understanding the way in which the world and things in it and evil out there and everything has an effect on you as an individual, and that effect can be ruinous, but at the same time coming, in some self-disposing way, to
desire it in some ways. So that's particularly the theme of the second song, for example. So, yeah...I could go on for hours if you like, but yeah, those sorts of ideas are kind of new for us. It's a bit of a different spin rather than just "the world's shit and we all deserve to die".
(laughs)

WULF: Right, right...and while I know that Irrumator, or Mick (Kenney) writes all of the music and you write all of the lyrics, I don't want to put words in Mick's mouth, but does he share attitudes or ideas similar to yours that are reflected in Anaal Nathrakh's music?

VITRIOL: Well, it depends in way you mean thoughts and ideas, but obviously, musically we're of like mind. We wouldn't be writing together still after a fair amount of time and still keep coming up with great stuff, so musically we're on the same page. In terms of the more ideological stuff, that's mostly me, but he might be slightly less...I don't know, how could you say it? Wrathfully pessimistic about everything?
(laughs)
But there's a vaguely similar sort of undercurrent that we do share, so yeah, as much as it is Mick writing the music and I do a lot of the writing and the lyrics, there is a sort of permeable barrier between the two of us. We're both compatible with the way the other one does whatever it is that they do. So it is sort of a genuine synthesis, I suppose, you might say. Different, but mutually complementary things. Does that make sense?

WULF: Yeah, that makes sense to me! I was just curious, because especially (by) reading past Anaal Nathrakh interviews and stuff there's definitely a...I don't know...pessimistic...misanthropic...(attitude)? I don't know, that's the sense that I got. I wasn't sure as far as if Mick was equally so, on that level.

VITRIOL: Yeah, he's probably not quite as (inaudible) as I am.
(laughs)
But we're compatible in that way.

WULF: Right, right. So on a quick separate note, what have you been reading recently? Did this play any role, as far as lyrics go, on "Passion"?

VITRIOL: Well, for the past few months I haven't really had much choice about what I was reading because I was doing a university course. So in the immediate past, everything I've been reading has been the philosophy of language and things to do with the definition of happiness and stuff like that. So I suppose, in a way, it does sort of (influence) me a little bit, but no, it's not directly relevant. The stuff I read that's relevant at the time for stuff on the album...I said this in interviews at the time for the last album it was a book called Moment of Freedom, and that was the first book of the trilogy, and one of the songs on this album was influenced by the second book of the trilogy, called Powderhouse. There's also some stuff by a German guy called Max Stirner who was writing in the 1800s or 1830s-40s, and that was the influence on the song "Paragon Pariah". There's stuff about multiple personality disorder and the reintegration of personalities into one core personality. That's what the one with the German title on this album ("Tod Huetet Uebel") is about. So it's more bits and pieces rather than one book or something that had a massive impact and took over the album. It's bits and pieces of various different things, but I've read quite a lot of interesting stuff, I've been lucky to have found it, so the bits and pieces are there and are also fascinating.

WULF: Yeah, I'd love to check out some of the stuff you're talking about, because especially with the multiple personality thing, I've always been really fascinated by that. Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind...what are you studying at the university?

VITRIOL: A Master's degree in philosophy. It's reasonably (inaudible) stuff, but I just find it interesting.

WULF: Me too. I actually just graduated myself...undergraduate degree. I'm not ready for graduate school quite yet, but that's pretty cool!

VITRIOL: What was the undergraduate degree?

WULF: History.

VITRIOL: Alright, OK. That's a (inaudible) for post-grad study if you ever do go onto it.

WULF: Yeah it is. (laughs) I'll probably have to if I do want to do anything.

VITRIOL: (laughs) Yeah, that's the thing.

WULF: So you mentioned, actually, off of "Passion", the German song and unfortunately I haven't taken much classes in German, so if I try to pronounce it I might butcher it, but man, I was curious...how in the fuck did you guys hook up with Rainer (Landfermann) from Bethlehem and Pavor?!

VITRIOL: Crazy voice, isn't it?

WULF: I haven't heard anything (by him) except his vocals on Bethlehem's "Dictius te Necare" but his vocals on that are absolutely insane and I'd say a perfect fit for Anaal Nathrakh's music because it's a much different vocal style than yours but quite intense just the same. So how did this guest appearance come to fruition?

VITRIOL: It was largely the same for us. We heard that Bethlehem album you just mentioned and we thought it was...well, you probably used the best word to describe it, it was really crazy. We've always been fans of what he'd done with that, it was just so out there and so...the (British English) word would be "barmy", essentially it means "crazy", so we just thought, "screw it, we'll just ask him!" So we tried to get ahold of him, and he's not the easiest man to get ahold of, but I eventually managed to track down the band that he's in now, which is a death metal band called Pavor in Germany, and they're a fairly unusual sort of band, they put out like...one EP every eight years
(laughs)
and (inaudible) signed to a record label, they're a fairly individual sort of thing, themselves. I sent an e-mail to the band contact up there on their website saying who we were and that we'd been blown away by his work on the Bethlehem album and some of the stuff he's done since, because he has bits and pieces of his vocals in Pavor even though he's not the main singer, (and asked) "would you be interested in it?" And he came back to us saying "possibly, but I'm going to need to know that it's something I can really get behind and it's something I can totally get on-board with and an idea of" and he asked me to give an idea of what we were thinking of for the song. So we sent him some music back and I sent him this quite long written-out version of the idea I had for the song, and then he replied, saying, "this is brilliant! I love the idea! I've just spent four hours arranging vocal parts for it!" And he just took the idea and ran with it. He just took off. So it was fantastic to have someone that was just so enthusiastic about it. He was blown away by the idea and then he turned around and blew us away back. So yeah, it was just about chatting to him and asking him about the idea.

WULF: Man! Well I think that was brilliant on your part because when I saw that HE was going to be on the album according to the press release, I was like, man...I didn't know of any vocals that he had done besides (his work) with Bethlehem, so I was crossing my fingers, saying "please let this be vocals!" And when that song came on, sure enough, I was like, "that's my man, right there!"
(laughs)

VITRIOL: Yeah, I mean, that's what we were like when we got this track back from him, because obviously we didn't know what he was going to do with it, so we were waiting to hear it ourselves, and then we played it and just thought, "yes! That is EXACTLY what we wanted this man to do! That is brilliant!" And so we loved it, we thought it was great.

WULF: Had he not heard of Anaal Nathrakh before?

VITRIOL: He'd heard the name. He wasn't overly familiar with us, I don't think, but not too long before we asked him we had played a show not in the town he lives in in Germany but not all that far away, and he said one of his friends had been. So he was aware of us.

WULF: I would just be surprised because I would think that if you guys had contacted him he would have just jumped on-board immediately, so that just kind of struck me as weird, but I'm really glad that it all came through.

VITRIOL: I'm kind of glad that it happened the way that it did because it meant (inaudible) when he said, "OK, I might be up for it", and it meant that he was taking it seriously and what we put to him was good stuff. So I'm kind of glad that he wasn't just, "yeah I'll do it!" It was nice to have someone work on the idea a little bit.

WULF: Right. OK, so I've got a couple more questions here if that's OK, because I know that you're probably really busy. If Mick still lives in California and you live in England...you've probably answered this before, but how much time do you spend writing and rehearsing if Mick writes the music and you write the lyrics separately?

VITRIOL: When it comes to making albums we spend not a great deal of time working on stuff. There's pretty much no rehearsing, though, because we put it together in the studio. So Mick writes literally a whole album's worth of music and I prepare...well, I've prepared 20 albums worth of ideas and bits of lyrics and stuff like that, and then we just go in together and do it in the studio at the time. So we can talk over the internet and that kind of thing but we don't particularly need to be physically in the same room until we get to the studio phase of it. For live stuff, obviously it's a bit more difficult, but as it stands at the time he's the only member of the live band who isn't available here in Birmingham where I am, so I just get everyone together and rehearse without Mick until he can get over. But the thing is, not only is he a talented guitarist and doesn't find it difficult to pick stuff up, (but) he wrote the damn songs!
(laughs)
He should have a pretty good idea of how they go, so we (go over the songs) and jam for a couple of days.

WULF: OK, so forgive me if this is wrong, but as far as I can tell, you guys have only one official music video, and so as far as you know, will you be shooting a music video for a song off of "Passion"? How do you feel about music videos?

VITRIOL: I don't know, really. We're not particularly interested in trying to get heavy rotation on MTV or anything. If it happens then I'm sure it's a great thing and I'm sure it's lovely but it doesn't upset if we're not doing that so we don't feel the need to try and push for something like that. But at the same time, it is kind of fun, we did do one for the last album, you're right. The only one. It was just a different creative idea for us because we had to come up with the ideas for it and work with who was shooting it to try and make it what we had our in our heads, which was just a new thing because we weren't used to working in video, so it was cool to have a try. I don't know whether we'll do one for this one. As far as I know, our contract with Candlelight does have a provision to doing one, but we've been so focused on getting the album out and putting a few tour dates together and stuff that we just haven't gotten around to that yet, but it would be nice. It would be cool to do another one if the opportunity comes along. So yeah, fingers crossed.

WULF: Alright, and you mentioned tour dates, so my last question then, would be...I understand that you've got a few dates that are going to be here in the United States, or at least just a couple? Am I mistaken?

VITRIOL: Not yet...we're just in the early stages of working out to do that. At the moment we've got a few dates in the UK, and then we go off into mainland Europe, and that's what we've been doing up till now, but in the past couple of days we've started to figure out whether it's viable to get back to the States because we played in California about six weeks ago or so...so we would like, if it's at all possible, to get back there, but we have no concrete plans yet. Hopefully, but we'll have to see what happens here.

WULF: Alright, well, for what it's worth, if you ever want to come to the Midwest here I know that's probably not in the cards, at least not for this album...
(laughs)
I live smack in the middle of the country, a lot of times bands on limited tours hardly ever make it out here.

VITRIOL: That's one thing that interests me about touring...I like to go to interesting places. To me, America is one big, whole, interesting place because I've never been to most of it, (just) parts of it. But I would like to see the places that bands don't always play. It would be cool. Whether it would be possible, I don't know, but we would be happy to go and play in Kansas or (wherever), but it would be an interesting, different thing to see.

WULF: I was going to joke and ask if you guys were ever coming to Kansas because that's where I am.
(laughs)
Alright man, well that's all the questions I have for you. I know you're probably really busy. Do you have anything else you'd like to say, any last words?

VITRIOL: Not particularly, not particularly. Whatever happens, maybe, you never know, we may turn up in Kansas one day.
(laughs)